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 Spellbound

An interview with Fernando Ribeiro and Mike Gaspar of Moonspell

By Bob Ignizio

Portugal's Moonspell (Fernando Ribeiro - vocals, Ricardo Amorim - guitar, Pedro Paixaio - keyboards, and Mike Gaspar - drums) have been steadily building a cult following since releasing their first demo in 1993.  They followed up that demo with an EP and 6 full length albums, creating  a style of metal that incorporates elements of goth and prog rock with more traditional heavy sounds.  Moonspell's most recent album, 'The Antidote', was released in fall of 2003 by Century Media Records.  In support of that album, the band hit the road opening for Cradle of Filth and Type O Negative on their recent US tour.  When the tour brought Moonspell to Cleveland this past November, I had a chance to chat with vocalist Fernando Ribeiro and drummer Mike Gaspar.

Bob: So how’s the tour going?
Fernando:  It just started.  We’ve completed the first week of the tour.  We’ve been having some problems with the tour busses and schedules and all of that, but regardless we’re getting a very good response from Cradle of Filth and Type O Negative’s crowds.  It’s exactly the reason we came here, to show our work to a larger audience, and this audience is picking it up.  So far, so good.   

B: Kind of like when you toured Europe with Type O.  That helped you reach a wider audience there.  You’re hoping the same thing happens in the US?
F:  You never know.  It’s very different times.  We toured with Type O in 1996 in Europe supporting them on their ‘October Rust’ tour.  It definitely did a lot of good for Moonspell and for our career, and to the way that people were connecting with Moonspell in Europe.  Obviously, our hope is that it will happen the same, because I think these are bands that all have something to do with each other.  We were very influenced by Type O Negative at the beginning of our career.  It’s always a pleasure to tour with them and see their shows. 

B: It seems like a really good package for the fans.
Mike:  I’ve been talking with the fans and they find the package amazing.  Even some people who haven’t heard Moonspell, which is pretty normal, they’re surprised when they see such a good support band.  Usually the support bands just have an album or two, but we have 6 full length albums and we’ve toured with these bands for years.  We have a big respect among technicians and tour managers.  Some of the crew has even worked with us in the past on our own tours, so it makes it very comfortable for us, almost like a family.   

B:  Do you think ‘The Antidote’ might be the album that helps you break through to a wider audience?
F:  It’s still a question mark how the record will do.  We just set out to make a quality record with very good songs.  And that was fulfilled.  It was a record that was shaping up inside of us and people were expecting it as well.  We never set our minds to doing singles.  We like to do good songs.  It’s very important for a band like Moonspell to have songs, and that they make sense for us.  I don’t know if this style of music will be popular again or not.  It was in 96 and 97, especially in Europe.  But this tour is a good sign that metal music with a gothic elegance and gothic visuals still has a pulse.   

B:  It does sound like there’s more hooks on the new album. 
F:  We wanted to do an album that was more physical, more instinctive.  For that we had to concentrate on making the hooks and the riffs more memorable.  It was coming out very naturally, but on the other hand it was our intention to make songs that on the first listen grab people, but also keep them returning to get the meaning of the lyrics and all of that.   It was very intentional on this album to make songs that were catchy but also deep. 

B:  Every one of your albums seems to change somewhat.  Do you have a lot of people say to you, “why don’t you do another album like ‘Wolfheart’ or ‘Irreligious’?”
F:   Regardless of the changes in our music, we were always a progressive band.  Even the first mini album was very progressive, very experimental compared to the black metal that was coming out at the time.  We’re very proud of our past, but that doesn’t mean we have to live in that past.  With ‘The Antidote’ I think we came up with a very good compromise between the past, the present, and also launching a few clues to Moonspell’s future.  People who don’t like what we’re doing now just keep on listening to ‘Wolfheart’ or ‘Irreligious’, but a lot of people, the majority of them, have followed.  ‘The Antidote’ is getting a good reaction even from old school Moonspell fans.  

B: Is there any particular lyrical theme that runs through the new album, or does each song have its own ideas?
F:  I always write having both in mind.  So each song definitely has an identity of its own, and its very own space.  But then again there’s always a red line running across the album.  I think for this album we found it out after the lyrics and the music, and I think the common element is fear, in a way.  First because fear allowed us to make music that is both powerful and spiritual.  It’s also our answer to all that’s around us.  There’s no doubt that we live in a culture of fear.  That has two points that I focus on.  The limitation of not going somewhere because of your fears, but also the push that fear gives you to be more alert. 

B:  Any plans for a video?
M:  We have a video for “Everything Invaded”.  We did that with a director named Tiago Guedes, who also did our “Nocturna” video.  His imagery was already so in connection with our music we had to go back to him.  Also with the last video we were completely surprised and amazed with his work.  We allowed him to write the whole thing, we trusted him to that point.  The new video is on the CD.  We thought it was really important that all the fans could have access to it, since it’s so hard to get on mainstream TV.  We also have it on our website so you can download it.  The theme of it is more like, talking about fear being this main element; it’s more like a horror movie trailer.  There are many images that would remind you of classic horror films.  One of the scenes is us being buried and coming up from the ground like the scene in John Carpenter’s ‘Vampires’. 

B:  You recently changed bass players, but otherwise the band has been the same for a pretty long time.  That’s somewhat unusual in the European metal scene these days.
F:  This line-up, except for the bass player, has been around since 1995 when Ricardo joined for the ‘Wolfheart’ tour.
M:  I think for the Scandinavian bands, there are so many talented musicians.  For them they do it more casually.  It’s very easy for them to have other projects.  Us Portugese, we don’t have access to as many professional musicians who have toured and worked on a schedule to make an album.  It makes the quality of musicians a lot less skilled, unfortunately.

B:  In other words you’re stuck with each other.
(Mike and Fernando laugh)
M:  It’s also what we’ve experienced, and the personal factor.  You have to live with that person.  We’ve grown so much together I think it would be hard to think of working with anybody else. 

B:  On ‘The Antidote’ you had Niclas Etelävuori, the bass player from Amorphis, fill in.  Is he touring with you also?
M:  No, we have a guy named Aires Pereira.  He did an audition in Portugal.  There we really saw the quality of musicians in Portugal.  They had lots of will, but unfortunately they couldn’t meet the standards.  Aires was the only one we saw who really blew us away with his playing.  At first we were a bit afraid because he played too well.  But he’s a very efficient person, he can learn the songs in a day or two.  That’s what we really needed because we already had some shows lined up.  Nikolas was an option that we had because our producer suggested him.  He was living in the area where we were recording.  He’s also a great friend.  Our second tour in America was with Amorphis, and it was our funniest, most adventurous tour.  That’s what made us so curious about Finland, and recording at Finnvox studio in Helsinki.

B:  So is Aires still on probation or is he an official member?
F:  He’s still on probation (laughs).  Like Mike said, we’ve been together so many years.  I think it’s better for both sides if he just has to worry about doing his part on stage.  We share the same tour bus and all of that, but the core of Moonspell is still the four of us.  We’ll see what the future brings.  We want to know the person very well before we marry them (laughs). 

B:  Will you come back and headline for this album?
M: This is like an appetizer.  It all depends on how the shows go and how people react, but if this goes well, as we hope it does, we’ll be able to come back and have a longer set and maybe even a bit of our own stage production.


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