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 Triple Threat

An interview with musician B.J. Lisko

By Bob Ignizio

 

Youngstown based musician B.J. Lisko is probably best known to Northeast Ohio rock fans for playing bass in the rockabilly meets Motorhead sounding band Hellvis.  Recently, however, an incident took place which resulted in that band being put on indefinite hiatus (for the story, just read this interview).  While B.J. is committed to seeing Hellvis rock again, in the meantime he has become involved in two other projects – he plays bass for the old school punk rock band The Fools Like You and does just about everything except play drums for his eighties metal influenced project Turbo Lover.  We managed to cover just about all the bases in this interview.  Read on. 

Utter Trash:  A little background about yourself.  Where were you born/did you grow up?  What got you interested in playing music in the first place?  Were you always into underground music or do you have some embarrassing musical skeletons in your closet?
B.J. Lisko:  I was born in Youngstown, Ohio and grew up about a half hour south in the sticks of Columbiana County. My music interests all started with AC/DC and then branched out from there. I think I was like 9 or 10 when I first heard ‘Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap’, and I was into rock ‘n’ roll immediately. I then started picking up a whole host of metal albums like Metallica, Judas Priest, Quiet Riot, Ratt, etc. I suppose that answers the question of whether or not I was always into underground music. I’m pretty into the cheese metal even today, whether it’s L.A. Guns, or Faster Pussycat, or Krokus, it’s all cool to me. And to this very day I still think Huey Lewis and The News had some killer records. I know that’s completely ruining any punk rock credibility I ever had, but what the hell. The man could write hits.  

UT:  The three bands you’re in are all quite different in style.  Do you have a favorite, or do they each serve as an outlet for different aspects of your musical interests?  How would you describe the style each band plays?
BJL:  I don’t know if I have a favorite. I think like you just said they serve as an outlet for everything that I’m into. I dig the dirty underground rock scene and that’s where Hellvis falls. Before I joined the band it was pretty rockabilly/psychobilly, but I slowly incorporated a Motorhead influence in there, and the more songs we wrote in that style the more comfortable it felt for the band.  The Fools Like You is probably the project where I have the least influence on, but that’s because if I was to throw my influence in, it would screw up the chemistry of the band. Jeff Phillips and Eric Schwartz (the guitarist and drummer) come from a much more punk background than I do, and my role in the band is basically to come up with a catchy bassline, or maybe throw in a riff or two every so often. It works pretty well, and the more we write together the more it’s coming off as its own entity. There’s a definite an early Wire influence there, and a bit of the early Police, but it’s becoming it’s own sound, which is what I think every band should strive for. Turbo Lover is basically a nod to my 80s past, with a bit of the rock ‘n’ roll thing thrown in for good measure. I do that because there are no bands in Northern Ohio that sound anything like it, and in Youngstown if you want to hear a particular style of music, it’s better to just write it and record it yourself. It’s a pretty sheltered area musically.

UT:  Hellvis is probably the best known of your projects.  How did that band come about and tell me the story of what led to its at least temporary demise.  What do you think are the prospects for Hellvis to get back together again after vocalist/guitarist Ted Laskowski “pays his debt to society”?
BJL:  Hellvis existed before I joined for about 4 years. I answered a musicians wanted ad in the Cleveland Free Times that said “Bass player wanted, influences: AC/DC, George Thourogood, Elvis.” I figured it was probably just a cover band but it turned out to be Ted. He knew Marty from a while back and convinced him to play drums and it just went from there. We recorded two albums, played a bunch of shows, and all was well until the night The Supersuckers came to town. Ted tried driving home after sucking down quite a few beers and passed out behind the wheel. When he awoke a cop was telling him to get out of the van, and he had all but obliterated the officer’s squad car. Luckily no one was hurt, but unluckily he hit the cop in Lyndale, which is a pretty rough area to get pulled over in. Hellvis will play again when he gets out. It may be a while before Ted gets everything straightened out before we play, but it will happen. I won’t let the band go out on that note.  

UT:  What’s it like to play with a drummer like Marty Katon in Hellvis who has been in Blue Cheer and Strawberry Alarm Clock?  Does Marty have any good stories he’s told you about touring with those legendary bands? 
BJL:  Marty is a riot. He’s an unbelievable drummer and a blast to play with. He’s got so many stories it’s ridiculous. Most of them involving the opposite sex, haha. It’s amazing how so few of his stories actually include the music groups he was with at the time. Marty’s great though. The guy is a legend in his own right. You couldn’t write a book to cover Marty’s life and the things he’s done and seen; it’d be an encyclopedia.  

UT:  Did you get involved with Fools Like You and Turbo Lover after the incident with Ted, or were you doing all three bands at once for a while? 
BJL:  The Fools Like You came right after Ted’s accident. Ted basically said he’d be going to jail for a while, and I’d known Eric for a bit and knew he and Jeff were looking for a bass player, so we hooked up.  

UT:  If I’m not mistaken, Turbo Lover is just you.  Any plans to put a band together and do some gigs?
BJL:  Well Turbo Lover is me in the sense that I write everything, but Eric from The Fools Like You played drums on the EP. Eventually Turbo Lover will be a band, but not till I find the right guitarists to do it. It’s amazing how few people there are in Youngstown that would even get what’s going on with Turbo Lover, let alone be able to play it properly. I’m no guitar god or anything, in fact what I do is pretty minimal, but people just can’t play that style of music at all here. But yeah, when I find the right people, and the timing is right, Turbo Lover will be a gigging band.  

UT:  Just from the name you can tell Turbo Lover has an eighties metal influence.  A lot of punk rock fans hate metal (and a lot of metal fans hate punk).  What appeals to you about metal?
BJL:  Well, the whole fact that real metal is underground again here in the States is what makes it so appealing. I think it was overkill to everyone there as the early 90s hit, but now finding a real metal band is a tough task. No one ever came along to carry on the torch of bands like Judas Priest and Motley Crue. Why do you think just about every 80s band in existence has put out a new album, or had a reunion tour? It’s nostalgic. And no one has capitalized on that today with the exception of The Darkness, who do it tremendously. It’s the right time for a band like Turbo Lover. The Unband from NYC almost hit on it a couple years ago but they couldn’t hold it together.  

UT:  You’re listed as producer on the Hellvis CD.  Did you produce Turbo Lover and Fools Like You as well?  Are you interested in producing for other people’s bands at all?
BJL:  Turbo Lover I produced. I suppose I did on The Fools Like You as well if you want to call what I did there producing. All I basically said was set all the stuff up in a room and mic it so it’s live, and don’t overdub anything. But that’s not anything Jeff wouldn’t have done anyway. Hellvis was the most in depth thing I ever produced. I set the tones, I reworked the songs, and played most of the guitar as well as the bass. If someone screwed up, we did it again. And if they screwed up or didn’t play something as well as I thought they could of, I made them do it again. In the case of the guitar if Ted didn’t hit the take in one or two tries, I took over and did it myself. I know it sounds like I’m some sort of band Nazi but that’s the way producing works, and Ted and Marty both showed a lot of class letting someone way younger than them take the reins.  I’d love to produce for other bands. I don’t know how many bands in the area understand that concept though either. I hear tons of local CD’s through the magazine I run down here, and some bands could be so much better if they just had a bit more direction. Bands are real touchy about other people messing around with their sound though. But if any band ever asked me to produce I’d be down for sure. Give me a direction you want the band to head in, and I’ll get it there.  

UT:  You had mentioned to me that Hellvis was starting to get some label interest.  Do you get bummed out over the band not being able to take advantage of that, or do you just chalk it up as part of life and focus on getting attention for your other projects now?
BJL:  Well, it’s a weird thing with our label because they knew Ted was going to jail when they expressed interest, and  in fact they just re-released the album. They’ve also said they’d be interested in anything we put out in the future so it’s pretty inspiring to continue on with the project whenever that happens to be. There’s a pretty big market out west where our label is located, and they wouldn’t have signed us if they didn’t think they could make money off of it.  So apparently even with Ted in jail the album is doing fine, and it’s as if nothing even happened. That’s rock ‘n ‘roll for ya.  

UT:  Anything you want to comment on that I didn’t’ ask about?
BJL:  Nah, you hit on the good stuff. Just check out www.hellvisrocks.com. That’ll take you to all three projects. Thanks for the interview brother, keep up the good work.

Visit the Hellvis website (which will also take you to The Fools Like You and Turbo Lover).